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Article: 12846 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: sco-list: Re: euro-mini-HOWTO
Date: 8 Oct 2001 16:31:18 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110080853210.10168-100000@nimbus.anzio.com>,
Bob Rasmussen <ras@anzio.com> wrote:
: On 6 Oct 2001, Frank da Cruz wrote:
: > ...
: > In terminal sessions, it can convert between the remote character set
: > (e.g. Latin-1, CP1252, whatever) and local UTF-8. Ditto for file transfer
: > with either FTP or Kermit protocol. Just tell it:
: >
: > set file character-set utf8 ; Name of local character set
: > set terminal character-set xxx ; Name of remote character set
: >
: > For more on Kermit and Unicode, see:
: >
: > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/unicode.html
:
: It's unclear from the kermit site whether a graphical version of Kermit is
: available. The screen shots show one, but my impression is that it has not
: been released. And it would be required in order to actually support
: Unicode. Is this true?
:
In a way, yes. In another way, no. I assume we're talking about Windows
here, not Unix, right?
A graphical (i.e. GUI window rather than 32-bit Console window) version is
due shortly:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95next.html
The current Console version, http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html :
. Fully supports UTF-8 in Windows NT, 2000, and XP, within the
limitations of your font (e.g. Lucida Console, Courier New, etc).
. Supports UTF-8 within the limitations of your console code page
in Windows 95, 98, and ME.
The GUI version will fully support UTF-8, within the limitations of the
chosen font, on Windows 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, and XP.
By "fully support UTF-8", I mean, it knows how to convert between any pair
of the following character sets, one used by Windows and the other used on
the remote computer:
apl2-ibm cp819 dg-specialgraphcs latin4-iso
apl-2741 cp850 dg-wordprocessing latin5-iso
apl-dyadic cp852 dutch latin6-iso
apl-iso cp855 elot927-greek latin9-iso
apl-plus-2000 cp857 elot928-greek macintosh-latin
arabic-iso cp858 finnish mazovia-pc
ascii cp862-hebrew french next-multinational
british cp864 german norwegian
canadian-french cp866 greek-iso portuguese
bulgaria-pc cp869 hebrew-7 qnx-console
cp10000 cp912 hebrew-iso short-koi
cp1051 cp913 hp-line-drawing sni-blanks
cp1089 cp914 hp-math/technical sni-brackets
cp1250 cp915 hp-roman8 sni-euro
cp1251 cp916 hungarian sni-facet
cp1252 cp920 italian sni-ibm
cp1253 cp923 japanese-roman spanish
cp1254 cyrillic-iso katakana swedish
cp1255 danish koi8 swiss
cp1256 dec-multinational koi8r transparent
cp1257 dec-special koi8u utf8
cp1258 dec-technical latin1-iso
cp437 dg-international latin2-iso
cp813 dg-linedrawing latin3-iso
In terms of today's Console version of Kermit 95, this means that if you have
Windows NT or 2000 and can select a fixed-pitch Unicode font for your command
window, and if the remote computer uses any of the listed character sets,
Kermit can (a) convert incoming characters to Unicode for display; and (b)
convert keystrokes to the remote character-set for transmission. Obviously
this depends to a large extent on the Windows keyboard driver, but Kermit
itself provides some assistance in the case of Latin-1, Latin-2, Cryillic, and
Hebrew repertoires, in the form of special keyboard modes.
By the same token, if the remote host uses UTF-8 and you have Windows 9x
or ME, K95 can convert between remote UTF-8 and the local Console code page.
Obviously many other combinations are possible, including the "trivial" one
of UTF-8 on the host and Unicode on Windows.
In UNIX, C-Kermit:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html
does approximately the same conversions, but the emulation is handled by
the console driver or Xterm window:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckfaq.html#term
- Frank